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The Quran

Post by ahmedlondon on Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:38 am

We all know the Quran is complete, unchanged in original form. Apparently, the order of the surah's are incorrect thanks to Uthman. Can someone explain this using authentic sources?

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Re: The Quran

Post by Rational Mind on Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:40 pm

Ya Ali Madad.
Brother do you have any sources or narrations stating the order of the qurans ayats has been changed or altered in any way?
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Re: The Quran

Post by ahmedlondon on Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:03 pm

Nope, I was told this by azadar and it was confirmed by my parents.

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Re: The Quran

Post by Rational Mind on Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:37 pm

Well there are a number of arguments. Some say usman (la) changed verses some say he compiled and some say he re-arranged.

What i believe is he re-arranged the order of the surahs (chapters) thus mixing the meccan and madinan surats by arranging the quran by order of length of sura rather than by order of revelation.

Anything other than that and the words of the Prophet(saww) in hadeeth e saqalain 'i leave for you two weighty things, the book of Allah the quran and my itrat' the ahle bait (as) do not make sense if the quran was not compiled in book form.

And if it had been changed, then we do not have any credible reports from any of the Imams (as) telling us this is so, so that too would not b something we could speculate on.

So the only option we have of change in the quran from its original form is that the order of the surahs may have been changed.

But even this is not something we should entertain as the quran is perfect and amending perfection can not improve on perfection, but it can make it less perfect.

The surahs and the quran was compiled during the time of the Prophet(saww) and ordered by Him (saww) in its present form as we have it today.
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Re: The Quran

Post by alialiali on Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:58 pm

hi
i googled this for fake qurans of today not sure about the sites:

http://shaikhsohail.wordpress.com/fake-quran-islamic-site-links/

Here is the list of Websites those are misleading the Muslims and non-Muslims about Islam by providing/offering FAKE Quran, Ahadith, Verses, Surah’s, and other maertials of islam …The list may not be complete all the time, as growing of internet and websites, but I am trying my best to publish complete list of sites as soon as I come to such sites/links.
I also request you to please drop me an email and let me know if any site/link you also know, so i’ll keep my list updated.
Waslam,
Sohail Ahmed Shaikh
List of Fake sites
Amazon offering fake quran
http://www.islam-exposed.org/
http://www.answering-islam.org/
http://www.convertstoislam.org/
http://www.thequran.com/
http://inthenameofallah.org/
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.islam-watch.com/
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_Page/
http://www.answering-islam.org/
http://www.radiojihad.org/
http://www.allaboutmuhammad.com/
http://islam-documents.org/
http://www.muhammadanism.com/
http://www.freemuslims.org/
http://www.islamundressed.com/
http://www.investigateislam.com/
http://www.ministrytomuslims.com/
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/
http://www.islamexplained.com/’
http://www.alislam.org/
http://www.the-good-way.com/


quran is perfect and complete, doesnt seem like the ones above are,,,,,,,,,
this really brings many questions to mind, enemies of islam are capable of trying anything to damage it and hide it

somthing to think about.....

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Re: The Quran

Post by Silat_warrior110 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:57 pm

Sheikh Sadooq:-

CHAPTER 32

THE BELIEF CONCERNING THE QUR'AN
Says the Shaykh Abu Ja'far: Our belief Concerning the Qur'an is that it is the Word (kalam)of Allah, and His revelation, sent down by Him, His speech and His Book. And "Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it. A revelation from the Wise, the Praiseworthy" [41, 42]. And "Lo! This verily is the true narrative" [3, 55]. "And Verily this (Qur'an) is a conclusive word; it is no pleasantry" [86, 13-14].
Verily, Allah, Blessed and Exalted is He above all, is its Creator and Revealer and Master and Protector and Utterer.
http://www.sicm.org.uk/index.php?page=suduk/Suduk32
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