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narrators of bukhari

Post by ghulam-e-ali on Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:22 am

assalamoallaikom

ba tohfa ya ali madad


let me mention some of the narrators of bukhari


now
the first narrator i would like to mention is

ثور بن يزيد بن زياد الكلاعي

ibn hajar writes about him in his tehzeeb

قال بن سعد كان ثقة في الحديث ويقال أنه كان قدريا وكان جده قتل يوم صفين
مع معاوية فكان ثور إذا ذكر عليا قال لا أحب رجلا قتل جدي

ibn saad said that he was thiqa in hadeeth, and it is said that he was
qudri in religion, and his forefather was killed in sifeen alongwith
mawia, and therefore whenever ali was discussed, he said i do not love
some one who had killed my forefather


similarly, we find

وقال عثمان الدارمي عن دحيم ثور بن يزيد ثقة وما رأيت أحدا يشك أنه قدري
وهو صحيح الحديث

so usman darmi said that he was thiqa, and no one ever doubted that he
was not a qudria


وقال يعقوب بن سفيان سمعت أحمد بن صالح وذكر رجال الشام فقال وثور بن يزيد
ثقة إلا أنه كان يرى القدر

same views are of ahmad bin salih who termed him thiqa, but qurdria

we find more that

كانوا يجلسون ويسبون علي بن أبي طالب

whenever he would sit, he would abuse ali asws


now, we find that he was qudria, and qudria have been cursed by none
other than our beloved prophet asws.

and love of ali asws was sign of momin, and grudge against him was sign
of monafiq

and we also find that he would abuse ali asws

and we read

قال ابو جعفر التستري: سمعت أبا زرعة يقول : إذا رأيت الرجل ينتقص أحدًا من
أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فاعلم انه زنديق .
تهذيب الكمال ج
19 ص96

abu zara said that when i see some one doing tanqeez of any of the
companions of prophet asws, i come to know that he is zindeeq.


so we also come to know that thor bin yazeed is zindeeq, monafiq
and beloved narrator of bukhari

inshallah, i will write about more narrators

take care

ali ali
har dam ali

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Re: narrators of bukhari

Post by ghulam-e-ali on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:33 am

assalamoallaikom


now, next one in the list is

عمران ابن حطان

first, we see that ibn hajar wrote about him in taqreeb


5152- عمران ابن حطان بكسر الحاء وتشديد الطاء
المهملتين السدوسي صدوق إلا
أنه كان على مذهب الخوارج ويقال رجع عن ذلك من الثالثة مات ‏[‏قبل
المائة‏]‏ سنة أربع وثمانين خ د س

so he was termed sudooq, but it is clearly written that he was khariji

and as per tehzeeb, bukhari, nisai and abu daood took ahadeeth from him

and the level of his kharajiat can be see from the fact that he uttered
these words at the time of death of mola ali asws

يا ضربة من تقي ما أراد بها ** ألا ليبلغ من ذي العرش رضوانا

إني لأذكره يومًا فأحسبه ** أوفى البرية عند الله ميزانا
so termed that darbat as the act of taqwa, and that it would reach
the arsh and he would discuss it on the day of judgment and that it
would be the best in meezan
i took these from al-asaba fi tameez sahaba,
and it is because of this that ibn hajar wrote in al-asaba

وكان من رءوس الخوارج

he was amongst the chiefs of kharajis

here is the link for al-asaba

http://www.al-eman.com/Islamlib/view...BID=397&CID=71

more to come inshallah on other narrators, including those mentioned by
brother

take care

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Re: narrators of bukhari

Post by Rational Mind on Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:16 am

Ya Ali Madad brother
By Qudria do you mean the Qadariya mutazila sect who believes everything that happens is done by mans own power and there is no destiny or fate?

Could you also clarify the meaning of zindeeq? Is it someone who professes (claims) to be a muslim but trys and distorts Islamic beliefs to his secret non muslim views?

I hope my questions are not too simple for you brother ghulam ali.

(Please can you put in romanicised text for the arabic as not everyone can read arabic text) Thank you brother and may Mola(as) reward you for all your dilligent and hard work.

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Re: narrators of bukhari

Post by ghulam-e-ali on Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:22 am

Rational Mind wrote:Ya Ali Madad brother
By Qudria do you mean the Qadariya mutazila sect who believes everything that happens is done by mans own power and there is no destiny or fate?

Could you also clarify the meaning of zindeeq? Is it someone who professes (claims) to be a muslim but trys and distorts Islamic beliefs to his secret non muslim views?

I hope my questions are not too simple for you brother ghulam ali.

(Please can you put in romanicised text for the arabic as not everyone can read arabic text) Thank you brother and may Mola(as) reward you for all your dilligent and hard work.

salam

yes, you are right about qudria

for zindiq, read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zind%C4%ABq

and sorry, i may not be able to give u arabic in roman
the main reason is that i have to work on some more narrators
hope you wont mind that

sorry again

next narrator is some one who is cursed by none other than umar

we find in masnad imam ahmad bin hanbal
165 حدثنا سفيان، عن
عمرو، عن طاوس، عن ابن عباس، ذكر لعمر أن سمرة، وقال، مرة بلغ عمر رضي
الله عنه أن سمرة باع خمرا قال قاتل الله سمرة إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه
وسلم قال لعن الله اليهود حرمت عليهم الشحوم فجملوها فباعوها‏.‏

http://www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=3&CID=3#s1
this hadeeth can also be located in sahih muslim
we find
Book
010, Number 3842:

Ibn
Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) reported: This news reached ‘Umar that Samura had sold wine, whereupon he said: May
Allah destroy Samura; does he not know that Allah’s Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said:” Let there be the curse of Allah upon the Jews
that fat was declared forbidden for them, but they melted it and then
sold it”?
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/010.smt.html

bukhari could not skip the hadeeth for its strong sanad
and had to protect him
so he did tehreef
and he wrote it like

Volume 3, Book 34, Number 426:
Narrated
Ibn ‘Abbas:

Once ‘Umar was
informed that a certain man sold alcohol.
‘Umar said, “May Allah curse him! Doesn’t he know that Allah’s
Apostle said, ‘May Allah curse the Jews, for Allah had forbidden
them to eat the fat of animals but they melted it and sold it.”
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/034.sbt.html

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Post by ghulam-e-ali on Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:24 am

salam
i had written this before in my this article where i mentioned hadeeth of samura as well

http://ahlubait.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/biased-bukhari-2/

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